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Sohn

Is it Sohn? Is it Hall China?

Just a week or two ago, I unearthed the following well-designed covered casserole with the indigo back stamp that said--Made in the U.S.A. in a local thrift store.

No other identification marks to give a clue as to the designer or manufacturer. Well, low and behold, just this last weekend I found this current large covered dish just one state away with a similar, but different indigo backstamp that also read--Made in the U.S.A. Coincidence?

I have no information on either of these large white covered dishes, but I have developed what I think is a very strong belief that both of these dishes are product of the Hall China Company.

I would like to make my case for the current post being Ernest Sohn by Hall. BTW, if we can ID it as Sohn, it is also highly likely this is Hall product. Actually, prior to this, I had arrived at the conclusion that the other dish was Hall China before seeing this new dish--based on the backstamp and the quality of the product.

Observations about the current post:

1. Look at the size of the product. It is huge. This is a frequent characteristic of Sohn designs.

2. Notice the white ceramic body. It is very similar to other product by Hall China. Pay special attention to the foot.

Now the following is the foot of the Century teapot by Eva Zeisel and made by Hall China:

Looks the same to me.

3. Now notice the backstamp. Both this presentation and the presentation of the words "Made in U.S.A" on the other dish are quite similar if not identical to the bottom half of many Hall marks (see Lehner pp. 187-193). In fact, if you google on Hall backstamps, you can find some in a similar cobalt blue color.

4. Notice the brass lid on this piece. It is identical in shape and design to another lid designed by Sohn and posted on this website by nostalgiaholic:

The lids are identical, but this one is brass plated.

The one thing that doesn't seem to mesh is the brass wire stand with glass candle holder. It isn't typical for Sohn. This stand may have been a marriage.

Finally and circumstantially, I found this in a dealer's booth with a large set of other Sohn items. In my experience--particularly in thrifts--I tend to find items by the same designer.

So what do you think?

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nostalgiaholic's picture

Fantastic!!

Well...(where does one begin?) When you first posted the big tureen, I had a nagging itch that said maybe Hall...based only on the "whiteness" of the glaze.  But was hesitant to even venture a guess.  It has that Hall look.  And like you, I'd have to lean to Sohn when thinking Hall.  The design is certainly cool enough to qualify as Sohn-esque.


Now the casserole is fabulous, too!  Wow, I love it, and completely understand your logic when trying to connect the dots.  I think it could be Sohn, as well.  Maybe these pieces were just hang tagged when new.  But, is it possible they fall into the same scenario as the well known coffee pots?  The ribbed version was mark ES Creations and the plain version marked Hall, yet we know the plain one is still a Sohn shape/design.


As for the warmer, the jury is still out for me, at least.  Like the casserole, I've never seen it (and I've seen alot of warmers).  Certainly not seen it as part of some other set.  It could be original to the casserole.  And while not common, glass candle holders were used on a few Sohn warmers.  It's hard to tell from the pic, but how well does the dish seat while on it?


I would love to get Earl's take on these...

mpratt's picture

Sohn Stand

Scott, here's the stand. I guess it's one size fits all the way it's made.

nostalgiaholic's picture

hmmm...

...not what I was expecting.  I thought the three spokes the casserole was sitting on would have a break or angle where the casserole meets the brass...making it more stable.  These are straight.  I wonder, have you tried turning the warmer over, flipping the candle holder?  What seem to be ball feet may be more about holding the casserole.  The wider ring on the bottom would certainly be more stable, and make more sense.

mpratt's picture

Sohn?

Doesn't work upside down, but a great thought. It is remarkably stable just as it is. The thing is that there is no place to "seat" the casserole--or anything for that matter.

nostalgiaholic's picture

Interesting...

...it's "self-leveling".  That makes it even cooler.  And the ball feet are indeed feet...yet another detail found on Sohn stands.  Mike, this just has to be Sohn, and I think the stand is most likely original.

atomicscott's picture

Nice sleuthing, Mike!

Does Hall have a historical department? If you sent them a photo, perhaps they could ID the piece for you. It's worth a try.

mpratt's picture

Sohn

I visited Hall in person and spoke with Everson Hall and Don Schreckengost. At the time, I asked about archives and I was unable to get anywhere with that question. As far as I know, nobody has any information about Ernest Sohn's work made at Hall. Hall did confirm that they made Sohn's ceramics.

What I recently discovered was that a catalog was made by Jack Orenstein of Ernest Sohn's work. I asked Ernest Sohn, in his home in NYC, if he had kept any of his design information. He said he had gotten rid of everything. I hope Earl joins this discussion, because he spent way more time with Sohn than I did.

youngmoderns's picture

Re: Sohn

Hi Mike and all,

Sorry to not reply to this posting until now--I have been putting my dinnerware enthusiasms on hold for the past couple months...  I do think that this covered dish, as well as the one Mike posted a couple days earlier are Ernest Sohn designs.  They share many characteristics found in other Sohn desings--mix of materials, similar (Hall) clay body, similar handles or covers, etc.  I have not been able to locate any period ads or trade features of these two pieces but I would lay a bet that they are Ernest Sohn Creations.  I do agree that the stand doesn't look quite right--that might be a marriage.

-Earl

mpratt's picture

Re: Sohn

I was flipping through the January 1959 issue of Better Homes & Gardens and the item shown at the top was sitting on a wooden placemat with baked beans and frankfurters inside and the lid on the table. A large brass spoon was buried inside the baked beans. Nearby, I recognized some Ernest Sohn bowls which I never realized were designed to be held by a brass lazy susan. Some chafing dishes in the article also appeared to be Ernest Sohn designs. No mention of Sohn could be found in the article.

nostalgiaholic's picture

Re: Sohn

Terrific discovery.  I've had the same experience with Sohn pieces used in advertising for other wares...usually showing some sort of buffet set up.